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You can use IntelliJ v6.0 with ICEfaces today by manually adding the ICEfaces libraries and configuration file changes to your JSF project in IntelliJ. Once configured, it actually works very well. Several of our developers here at ICEsoft are using IntelliJ this way.

I'll see if one of them can post a summary on how to do the configuration to the Knowledge Base for you.

Regards,
Ken Fyten
ICEfaces Product Manager
We are hoping to add support for RAD 7 in the ICEfaces v1.6 release, which would be available in late Q1 2007, barring the discovery of any complex technical issues.

In the meantime, you should be able to manually add the ICEfaces libraries and configuration files to your project to use ICEfaces in RAD 7. ICEfaces works with the MyFaces runtime, so that shouldn't be an issue.

Regards,
Ken Fyten
ICEfaces Product Manager
Hi Guys,

Thanks for the input re: bug tracking database.

We're working on the public ICEfaces bug tracking system for the www.icefaces.org site and it is currently our highest priority in terms of new site features. We hope to make it available before the end of January.

In the meantime, I'd recommend referring to the "Known Issues" section of the Release Notes document provided with each release and searching the forums for any issues you may be encountering.

Regards,
Ken Fyten
ICEfaces Product Manager
Thanks for the suggestion, re: SourceForge.

We have previously considered hosting aspects of ICEfaces on SourceForge but for a variety of reasons have decided that the ICEfaces community can be better served over the long term by the www.icefaces.org site.

We understand that some of you are frustrated by the lack of certain capabilities, such as bug tracking, nightly builds, etc. We are working hard to bring these features to the www.icefaces.org site over the course of the next several months. We will be posting a roadmap for these additional community features early in 2007, along with approximate timelines for their arrival.

Thanks again for your patience in this matter. I'm looking forward to working with you all to make www.icefaces.org a community site that meets and exceeds your expectations.

Regards,
Ken Fyten
ICEfaces Product Manager
Hello,

Due to the "application level ajax" approach that ICEfaces uses it can be difficult to integrate components from other Ajax toolkits and JSF libraries into the same page. The involved issues are really no different from those that you will have if you try to integrate components from different Ajax-JS libraries on the same page. They will often end up colliding in some manner with the use of extensive JavaScript event handlers, XMLHTTPRequest, etc.

Having said that, in addition to the ICEfaces Component Suite components ICEfaces does support the Sun Standard JSF components today, as well as partial support for the MyFaces Tomahawk components. Work is currently ongoing to further improve the ease of integrating 3rd party JSF components into ICEfaces applications, with the initial goal of making most of the MyFaces Tomahawk components work. In addition, you are able to add your own custom JSF components, or "port" other components to full-fledged ICEfaces components by creating ICEfaces renderers for them.

As with any engineering decision there is a trade-off between the ease-of-use and comprehensive nature of ICEfaces Ajax support and the flexibility to easily integrate 3rd party components. We are moving ICEfaces in a direction to make integration of 3rd party components easier and feel that the productivity benefits of the "application level ajax" approach that ICEfaces uses far outweigh any additional complexity in integrating 3rd party components. Of course, each project has it's own criteria for making this assessment (YMMV).

Regards,
Ken
An early access version may be available sometime later in January. We're currently working on it.

Regards,
Ken
The next ICEfaces release will be v1.5.2, a patch release with additional bug fixes.

The current plan is to release v1.5.2 in January.

Regards,
Ken
Stephane,

We had a mis-configuration problem with the Component Showcase demo for a awhile this afternoon, fixed now. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Ken
ICEfaces v1.5.1 has been released and is available for download.

See the Release Notes for more information.
Nikita,

Making the ICEfaces bug database publicly available is definitely on our list of future enhancements to the icefaces.org site. We want to roll out additional features on a prioritized basis, so your feedback on the need for the bug database is very much appreciated. We have some other features that we're considering listed on the http://www.icefaces.org/main/community/community-overview.iface page. If you'd like please take a look and let us know your personal priorities for the listed features, and any others such as the bug database.

Sorry for the inconvenience this has caused, we're working on it!


Regards,
Ken Fyten
ICEfaces Product Manager
There have been some questions around the subject of how to enable community contributions to the ICEfaces project. One of the main objectives of taking ICEfaces open source was to enable community involvement and contributions of all kinds. It is clear from the success of other OSS projects that the nurturing and development of a healthy community is essential to fully realize the benefits of open source software. If you've seen the Community Overview page on the www.icefaces.org site, it provides some ideas on the types of features we're considering adding to the site to better support direct community involvement and asks for your input to help us to identify those with the highest value to the community.

It is ICEsoft's intention to implement the highest priority features to streamline community participation in the project in the near future. In the meantime, if you are interested in contributing to the ICEfaces project please contact us directly via the "Contact Us" link at the bottom of any www.icefaces.org page and we'll follow-up with you individually. This approach may be somewhat awkward but please bear with us will we continue to improve the site and processes around community contributions.

The level of interest we've received from potential contributors has been truly incredible! We're very excited by the opportunity to work with the community to improve ICEfaces.

Regards,
Ken Fyten
ICEfaces Product Manager
Hi,

It is our intention to strongly encourage community contributions.

Unfortunately, we didn't have time during the development of the initial version of the www.icefaces.org site to implement some of the features that would better support community contributions. Our highest initial priorities were to establish a home for the community in terms of members, discussions, and learning resources. Of course, making the actual source code of ICEfaces available was the primary objective for the launch date!

We will be adding more site features and processes in the future to better support community contributions, please see my post on the subject here.

Regards,
Ken Fyten
ICEfaces Product Manager
Hi Reagan,

I'm the Product Manager for ICEfaces, thought I could try to shed some light on the EPS vs. open-source question.

First, to clear things up a bit there is no non-open source version of ICEfaces. The ICEfaces Enterprise Production Suite (EPS) is a combination of value-added software and commercial technical support that builds on top of ICEfaces to solve some difficult technical limitations with current generation Servlet containers and the HTTP protocol when using Ajax-push or comet techniques. These technical limitations are not specific to ICEfaces but impact any application using Ajax-push or comet techniques.

The additional software elements of EPS are provided to augment the open source ICEfaces technology to improve the efficiency and reliability of long-lived connections and asynchronous communications, providing for greater scalability on similar hardware, among other benefits. It is feasible that you could assemble a similar technical solution to these limitations using other software components yourself, for example, using an approach such as continuations as provided by Jetty would provide similar efficiencies.

The actual scalability characteristics of ICEfaces when used with standard application servers today (without EPS) will vary depending on the nature of your application design, asynchronous communication requirements, number of concurrent users, etc. It is by no means crippled or otherwise intentionally stunted other than by the nature of today's application server technology. Most of our customers have had great success deploying ICEfaces applications without the addition of the EPS bundle.

With regard to the possibility of open-sourcing the EPS software bits in the future, it's a possibility. However, at this time we feel that it is best delivered in conjunction with professional support and that the combination of commercial support and a tightly integrated large-scale deployment solution makes a lot of sense for large companies looking to adopt ICEfaces technology. Finally, offering professional support and value-added integration solutions are how we enable large enterprise customers to rapidly and successfully deploy ICEfaces, as well as keep the lights on at ICEsoft to continue to sponsor the open-source ICEfaces project.

Sorry for the loooong post but I thought it was important to try to address this issue fully.

Regards,
Ken Fyten
ICEfaces Product Manager
Hi,

Yes, several of us use IntelliJ regularily, so it's something we'd like to do. We do intend to open the tool integration source code also, just haven't had time to complete the work to do so yet.

I'll see what we can do in the short-term.

Regards,
Ken
Daniel,

The default CSS classnames that each component uses are usually listed in the TLD documentation for the components, under the 'styleClass' attribute.

The TLD documentation is included in the download bundle under the ..\doc\tld directory, or also available online here: http://www.icesoft.com/developer_guides/icefaces/tld/index.html

Regards,
Ken
 
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